My husband is an active duty Marine on recruiting duty. His best friend was just killed in Afghanistan, and the Recruiting command here almost didn't approve his leave for him to attend the funeral. The Recruiting Command finally approved his leave, and when we returned from the funeral, my husband made a comment to another Marine recruiter that he ';hated recruiting duty'; because he'd rather be in Iraq or Afghanistan again, and that ';recruiting duty is BS.'; The other Marine recruiter then went to the Commanding Officer, who then contacted my husband and screamed at him and told him he is scheduled for a hearing to determine whether or not he be relieved of duty, and discharged for his comments. I want to know what his rights are and how to fight this. He has been in for 8 years and has been deployed countless times to Iraq- he is well decorated and has never once been in trouble before, not even a Page 11. Please help- any advice is appreciated! And please, no reprimanding about ';well he said it, he needs to suck it up';- the Marine Corps means everything to him.Need advice for husband (Marine Recruiter) looking at possible court martial, relief of duty, %26amp; discharge?
I am a US Army Officer Veteran of 13 years. Here are a couple of points regarding your question:
#1 - Your husband is a Marine. He's been screamed at by his CO before, and he'll be screamed at by his CO again. Count on it. Your husband can handle this. Let it go.
#2 - A hearing is just that, a hearing. Not a discharge. In my opinion, This hearing is a simply a threat by the CO. Good recruiters are hard to come by, and if your husband is a good one, he'll keep his job. I can't imagine discharging a Soldier for a comment such as the ones you describe. It just doesn't happen.
#3 - As for ';fighting'; the hearing (if it does come to pass), you can't. A Soldier is ordered to attend his/her hearing. To fight against having a hearing would be the refusal of an order. That would be a huge mistake for your husband, and I'm sure he knows it.
#4 - My final point is going to sting, so brace yourself. And I don't mean it to sound cruel; but you are asking for advice, and I am a woman, a Veteran, and the spouse of a Soldier so - I offer this advice with the greatest of intentions and the hope that it helps your situation. Here it is: Leave this alone. Let your husband handle it. There is more going on here than you are aware of. The wife (or husband) of a Soldier who gets involved in a situation like this only makes things worse. See? I told you it would sting. Now, settle back down and listen to me. The Military is a ';good old boys club';, always has been and will continue to be for a long time to come. A civilian (especially a wife) who vocalizes protests like yours is viewed as a troublemaker and you don't want that. It will do nothing but make life hell for your husband. Now, I'm not saying that you shouldn't care, nor that you shouldn't be there for him, nor that you shouldn't help him deal with it. I'm saying that you're making a mountain out of a mole hill and it'll all blow over soon.Need advice for husband (Marine Recruiter) looking at possible court martial, relief of duty, %26amp; discharge?
He's not going to be discharged for it. He's got a right to his own opinions. He did not publicly disparage the Corps. They could give him a lousy evaluation and boot him off recruiting duty, but that's about it.
If his record was not spotless he'd have never been sent to recruiting duty in the first place.
He has the right to consult with defense counsel in the event any charges are brought against him.
He has the right to refuse NJP and request trial by court martial.
If there is even a possibility of being relieved of duty and discharged then your husband is not telling you the truth as to what he said. No Marine is going to be discharged for saying they hated recruiting duty and no other Marine is going to snitch for such a minor comment. It is possible that your husband said something totally inappropriate about sending people to die or questioning the civilian or military leadership. You need to find out the truth as to what your husband said. The story as told seems a bit fishy to me.
He's not going to get discharged for that. I don't know what's up the CO's ***, Marines complain all day long. Most commanders believe the saying: ';a bitching Marine is a happy Marine.';
Recruiting duty isn't for everybody. I know I would much rather be overseas than being a recruiter. I wouldn't worry too much about him getting in trouble, it's not the first time a Marine has called the Marine Corps BS
He needs to talk to JAG. Yahoo Answers is not going to help his case. Neither is your name, which is against good military order and discipline, but fortunately, you are just a spouse, so that shouldn't have any bearing on his case.
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